{"id":261,"date":"2019-07-22T20:51:29","date_gmt":"2019-07-22T20:51:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/clinics.law.harvard.edu\/crimmigration\/?page_id=261"},"modified":"2019-07-26T16:17:18","modified_gmt":"2019-07-26T16:17:18","slug":"student-perspectives","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/clinics.law.harvard.edu\/crimmigration\/student-perspectives\/","title":{"rendered":"Student Perspectives"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_5&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_5&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;http:\/\/clinics.law.harvard.edu\/crimmigration\/files\/2019\/07\/IMG_5678-e1564157021746.jpg&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_5&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Hanne Sandison JD \u201816&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[M]y experience in the Crimmigration Clinic showed me how imperative it is to have capable and passionate people working at all levels and doing all types of legal work. Policy work, impact litigation, advising, and direct client services all work in harmony to create a more just and equitable system for those most vulnerable to abuse and neglect. I am excited to continue to be a part of this talented and inspiring community of lawyers, and I feel honored to have learned from and with them.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Lily Axelrod JD \u201915&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHLS is a leader in clinical education and teaching immigration-related courses . . . [and] crimmigration is a really important subset of immigration law that affects millions of people a year, so we at Harvard are really lucky to have an expert on that.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Emma Scott JD \u201816&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Crimmigration is] a really complicated area of law\u2013combining state, federal, and administrative\u2013so the day to day work is intellectually interesting.\u00a0 It\u2019s also an exciting area because it\u2019s still evolving\u2013you can probably find something in the news related to crimmigration every day.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Clarissa Lehne JD \u201818&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the Crimmigration Clinic, I learned a lot about the group effort often behind court filings and felt very fortunate to be partnered with another student off whom I could bounce ideas. Finally, this opportunity also gave me a new perspective on strategic litigation: I&#8217;d superficially thought about it as quite a linear effort, when in fact it&#8217;s often more a matter of chipping away at a particular issue with repeated runs at the same wall (or judicial body).\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Mike Ewart JD \u201818&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo much of law school is theoretical, the opportunity to apply the knowledge we learned in Phil&#8217;s Crimmigration class to an actual case was invaluable\u2014and easier said than done.\u00a0 For me, the [Crimmigration Clinic\u2019s work] underscores the importance of access to counsel in the immigration context (where there is no equivalent to the public defender system). In our case, the client had a winning argument, but it was one that would have been extremely difficult to make without legal training and the resources we had at our disposal.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Samuel Weiss JD \u201814&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhile the idea of focusing immigration enforcement on folks with criminal convictions has intuitive appeal, in the Crimmigration Clinic we got to see how often good people faced devastating consequences for trivial crimes. The statutes most relevant to crimmigration are extremely punitive, especially to people with drug convictions, and often suck discretion out of the system so that immigration judges are left to rubber stamp removal orders. The poor drafting of these statutes makes them confusing but also means that there is room for advocates to be creative in trying to win their clients\u2019 relief. The fact that immigrants facing deportation have no right to counsel creates a huge opportunity for students to help folks navigate an incredibly complex and punitive system. As an experienced practitioner in exactly these types of cases, Phil Torrey was able to closely mentor us as we tried to help folks find some avenue for relief.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;Hanne Sandison JD &#8217;16&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWorking in the Crimmigration Clinic this semester has been a unique and fascinating capstone to my law school career. Crimmigration (the intersection of criminal law and immigration law) is a relatively new and constantly evolving legal discipline. The law is always changing, and advocates are constantly trying to find creative solutions to new problems. 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